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February 19, 2003

 1.  CALL TO ORDER, INTRODUCTIONS, REVIEW OF AGENDA

 The meeting of the Lee County Smart Growth Advisory Committee was opened by Chairman Brian Griffin at 6:04 p.m. in the First Floor Meeting Room of the Lee County Administration Building. The following Committee Members were in attendance:

                         Mr. Jack Eikenberg

                        Mr. Lee Ford

                        Mr. Dennis Gilkey

                        Mr. Brian Griffin

                        Mr. Bill Hammond

                        Mr. Bob Janes

                  Ms. Ellen Lindblad

                        Mr. Rudy Marion

                                                Mr. Arnold Rosenthal

                                                Mr. Don Stilwell

 

The following Committee members were excused absent:

           

                        Ms. Jeannie Dozier

                        Mr. Don Eslick

                        Ms. Carol Hudler

                        Mr. Rob Fowler

                        Mr. Steve Maxwell

                                                Mr. Steve Smith

 

The following Committee members were absent:

                        Ms. Kate English

                        Mr. Tim Kenny

 

Mr. Wayne Daltry introduced Dr. John Finch and his class on Environmental Policy from Florida Gulf Coast University.

 

2.            ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS

 

A.     MINUTES OF JANUARY 15, 2003

 

Accept and approve the Minutes as amended by discussion of the members.

 

Due to the fact that there was no quorum, Commissioner Bob Janes moved to table the Minutes, seconded by Mr. Jack Eikenberg, called and carried.  Later in the meeting Mr. Rudy Marion moved approval of the Minutes, seconded by Mr. Lee Ford, called and carried.

 

At this time Mr. Daltry advised that the County is planning an Appreciation Breakfast for all Committees, honoring all the volunteer work they have done.  The scheduled date is April 1, 2003.  He inquired as to how many members would be interested in attending.  The consensus that Mr. Daltry will report back to the County was a resounding, “I don’t know”.

 

3.      ACTION AND RECOMMENDATION SECTION

 

A.     TRANSPORTATION ISSUES TO RECOMMENDATIONS (distributed)

 

The Workshop recommendations of January 24th have been reworked into categories tied to the issues, which may or may not be acceptable to the committee and may be revised or removed.  The Minutes statement is also attached for acceptance.  The committee is requested to review, amend, and/or approve the preliminary recommendations.

 

Mr. Daltry reviewed the Agenda Packet noting the Recommendations from the January 24th Workshop and how he took the Issues List and formatted both into a formal recommendation statement which could be addressed to the Board of County Commissioners.  Chairman Griffin pointed out that the Workshop was attended by nine Committee members, seven[1] members of the public and 24 employees of the Lee County region and the State of Florida.  Chairman Griffin stressed that the members carefully read the recommendations.  Mr. Daltry requested review tonight with approval at the March meeting.  The following discussion was on the Transportation Workshop Recommendations.  Mr. Dave Loveland, Lee County Department of Transportation responded to inquiry throughout the discussion:

 

        Land Use/Trip Length Recommendations

        Item 2       School sites to include sidewalks to site - Mr. Arnold Rosenberg suggested cross-referencing and the need for the two mile radius for busing; Mr. Daltry agreed to bring it up again in Land Use.

        Item 10     Secure industrial commercial storage areas between Counties - the discussion on this item was aimed at commercial vehicles that must daily use I-75.  The suggestion was that these vehicles could be stored in a secured area near the County line and serviced by a supply vehicle; to promote support facilities and car pooling to reduce trips into Collier County.

        Item 11     Encourage developments of more hierarchy of road types – Mr. Loveland corrected that this is development, singular; collector roads are the primary concern. 

        Item 12     Establish “priority funding areas” to promote alternative travel modes (move to Multimodal, and absorbed)

·        Subsidize Impact Fees

·        Concurrency incentives

·        Utility/infrastructure

                        Mr. Loveland stated that this was related to promoting infill development; Mr. Dennis Gilkey explained that in an area that you want development to occur, you make it a priority and incentivize that area.

        Item 13     Create new density areas

·        Warehouse to residential

Mr. Gilkey explained that there may be areas where there should be conversion of redevelopment to higher density residential uses.

        Item 14     Increase acquisition of environmental areas prior to development (move to Land Use Workshop)

·        Take lands for development off table

                        A brief discussion ensued.  The consensus was to move it to Land Use.

        Item 15     Bicycle and pedestrian ways (absorbed) – a brief discussion ensued.  It was agreed to put this item also in Community Character.

        Item 20     Disallow right turns on red at major pedestrian use intersections (move to safety) – Ms. Linda Riley advised that she submitted this item and explained the problem.  Following discussion it was agreed to leave this item on the list.  Mr. Loveland advised that the traffic section of DOT will respond to this item.

 

        Throughout this discussion the following members of the public made comments:

 

        Mr. Larry Shopp

        Ms. Cathy Malone

        Mr. Jack Slott

        Ms. Linda Riley

        Mr. Dave Loveland, Lee County DOT – commented on six-laning SR 80 from SR 31 to SR 29

 

        Multi Modal Recommendations

       

        Item 1       Increase surcharges of rental cars (move to congestion issue) – during a brief discussion, it was agreed that funds should go into a Transportation Construction fund. 

                        Later in the meeting

                        Mr. Dave Loveland, DOT, responded to inquiry regarding the use of funds for road maintenance.

        Item 4       Seek additional funding to close pedestrian gap

·        Require transit authority to identify pedestrian gaps to transit stops –

Mr. Bill Hammond explained that this gap is between the end of the sidewalk and the bus stop bench.

        Item 5       Expand second quarter mile of transit stop – require sidewalk/pedestrian access (change Development Standards Ordinance) – this item was discussed.

        Item 8       Identify specific multi modal/transportation needs for funding through tax increases

·        Sales/advalorum –

·        During this discussion Mr. Daltry requested that everyone bring their books to the next meeting. Discussion of needs versus financial feasibility ensued.  Chairman Griffin suggested keeping this item; however, adding “as a last resort”.

 

Following a brief intermission, the discussion continued:

 

        Item 9       Incentives to provide transit corridors in high density areas and incentives to provide high density development in transit corridors (moved to Land Use/trip above). – Mr. Daltry explained peak hour pulsing. 

 

        Congestion/Transportation System Management

        Item 3       Incentives for creating safe rooms in houses (move to land use or community character) – this item was briefly discussed.

        Item 13     Raise Gas Tax to reflect actual cost of driving – responding to inquiry, Mr. Dave Loveland, DOT, advised that this would require specific Legislative action. 

 

        Safety/Specialized Transportation/Funding

        This category was briefly discussed.

 

Mr. Daltry noted that the next step is getting down to details on the tools and techniques on the changes the Committee has made and in the framework of government to which you want applied.  The suggestion was made to reduce the number of recommendations that are already covered.          

 

B.     COMMUNITY CHARACTER ISSUES PROGRESS REPORT (distributed)

 

The committee is requested to review, amend, and/or approve the Issue List for Day Workshop.

 

Mr. Daltry presented this item to the Committee. If this Issue List is acceptable, staff will put together the book for the April 4th full day Workshop on this subject.  A brief discussion ensued.  It was agreed that this list is acceptable.  Sacred Placed can be added until March 14th.

 

4.      SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS (none-included in Item 3B)

 

5.      OTHER BUSINESS

 

A.        COMMISSION BRIEFING

 

Discussion item.  Perhaps establish a subcommittee (perhaps the co-chairs?) to draft/review outline of report to the Board of County Commissioners.

 

Mr. Daltry recommended that a Sub-committee be formed to help draft the report to the Lee County Board of County Commissioners.  Following discussion, Mr. Daltry agreed to bring his recommendation to the Committee next month for their review.

 

B.        REVIEW THE LAND USE WORKSHOP WORKBOOK

 

The Workbook for the February 28th Workshop will be reviewed, and revisions hurriedly pursued.

 

Mr. Daltry inquired if anyone had any changes to the Workbook.  This Workshop will be from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m., in the Old Court House, Commission Meeting Room.

 

March 14th is the Environmental/Water Quality Workshop, in the Hall of Fifty States, from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.

 

April 4th is the Community Character Workshop, in the Commission Meeting Room, from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m.

 

C.        OUTREACH

 

Begin discussions on Outreach program.

 

It was agreed to discuss this item at the next meeting.

 

AT THIS TIME, A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE COMMITTEE APPROVED THE MINUTES, ITEM 2(A).

 

6.      PUBLIC COMMENT

 

Public comment was given as the items were discussed.  Chairman Griffin suggested that Dr. John Finch be included on Mr. Daltry’s e-mail list, thus keeping FGCU informed of Smart Growth activities.

 

7.      NEXT MEETING TIME

 

The next meeting is scheduled for March 19, 2003, from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. in the Lee County Administration Building, 1st Floor Meeting Room.

 

8.      ADJOURNMENT

 

Mr. Rudy Marion moved to adjourn, seconded by Mr. Bill Hammond, called and carried.  The Chairman adjourned the meeting at 7:54 p.m.

 

                                                                              Respectfully submitted

 

 

 

                                                                              Shirley E. Rost