MINUTES
SMART GROWTH
September 20, 2006 Minutes
Time
and Place: Wednesday, September 20, 2006; 6-8 p.m., 1st
Floor, Lee County Administration Building, 2115 Second Street, Fort
Myers Florida.
I.
Call to Order, Introductions, Review of Agenda
Wayne Daltry opened the meeting of the Lee County Smart Growth Advisory
Committee at 6:05 p.m.
The following committee members were in attendance:
Mr. Bill Hammond
Ms. Carie Call
Mr. Steven Teuber (Arrived 6:08
p.m. & departed at 7:24 p.m.)
Mr. Ron Hamel (Departed at 7:50 p.m.)
Ms. Jill Tyrer
Ms. Ellen Lindblad
Mr. Lee Ford
The following committee members
were excused absent:
Ms. Whitney Gray
Mr. Brian Griffin
Mr. Jack Luft
Ms. Liz Donley
Mr. Jack Eikenberg
The following staff were in
attendance:
Wayne Daltry, Director of Smart Growth
Commissioner Janes (Departed at 6:00 p.m.)
Don Stilwell, County Manager (Departed at 6:20 p.m.)
Tim Jones, County Attorney
Lucy Crook, Recording Secretary
2. Administrative Matters
A. Minutes of
May 17, 2006.
Action Needed: Accept and approve the minutes as amended by
discussion
from the members. No quorum.
Wayne
Daltry recapped that two replacements were made for those who did not
wish to be reappointed. Damon Romanello was appointed in place of Don
Eslick and Rob Fowler currently has not been replaced.
Damon
Romanello introduced himself. He is a Project Manager / Planner with
Architecture, Inc.. He has a Bachelor of Architecture and Master of
Urban and Regional Planning from Florida Atlantic University. He lives
in S. Fort Myers. Everyone went around the table to give their
introductions. Carmen Monroy, Lee Tran Grants was in public attendance.
Wayne
Daltry recapped Smart Growth from the first 190 preliminary
recommendations made December 2003. All but 67 have been implemented by
the county to find the gaps before going to BoCC. The Staff Report was
emailed to committee members. These recommendations are going to Local
Planning Agency Monday, September 25, 2006.
3. Reviews
A. Smart Growth LPA Policies - Wayne Daltry explained the
process:
·
The recommendations made by Smart Growth, go to the LPA.
BoCC receives them in December after they have been reviewed and sent to
the State Land Planning Agency for a 60 day review process. The BoCC
receives them back from the state for review to adopt for amendment all,
some, or none. During a two month period effective parties may challenge
the amendments and by mid 2007 the recommendations made will become the
last policy to add to the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Daltry summarized the following from the “Staff Report for CPA
2005-10”:
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Page 1 lists all policies Smart Growth recommended with
exception to Community Planning and Smart Villages. Staff is working on
the mixed uses with Smart Villages for Smart Growth review at the
October meeting. (Don Eslick arrived at 6:14 p.m. and sat with the
committee).
·
Page 2, 3, and 4 is a composite list of Smart Growth
recommendations made. (Steve Maxwell arrived at 6:15 p.m.).
·
Page 4 and 5 is supporting information on everything this
committee did to develop the recommendations.
·
Page 6 is more detail on each section. (Wayne Daltry
left at 6:17 p.m. to retrieve missing pages). (Don Stilwell departed at
6:20 p.m.).
Co-Chair Hammond asked referred back to Item 2. Administrative
Matters, A. -Approve May 17, 2006 draft minutes.
MOTION by Damon
Romanello to accept the draft May 17, 2006 minutes as written.
Mr. Teuber asked
to correct his spelling of last name. Jill Tyrer asked if the
presentation on page 3 Item IV. B, “If This is Growth Management, I want
My Money Back”, is going to be presented again since there was technical
difficulty at the meeting.
MOTION continues
- Bill Hammond asked to accept the minutes as written to include the
name correction and to receive another presentation, “If This is
Growth Management, I want My Money Back”. All were in favor. Called
and carried.
Bill Hammond asked for discussion on page 1, “Staff Report for CPA
2005-10” –
1. Greenways - Steve Maxwell referred to page 5, Airport Noise Zone B,
and questioned the language. Tim Jones said it has always been like
that, but it is being called something different; if existing now, you
can keep it.
2. Page
8 of 14 - Steve Maxwell questioned if Goal 43 is going to be feasible to
have bike interfaced with mass transit of other areas from Collier line
up highway 41. (Wayne Daltry returned). Wayne Daltry said Smart
Growth recommended coordinating transit with pedestrian and referenced
Jack Luft’s previous presentation on this concept.
There are 7 different plans going to LPA. Mr. Daltry briefly discussed
pages 1-10 and the following:
Page 11 - Transportation Currency Management System. He said there is
nothing to be done with Lehigh Acres but Service Level F until Wallace,
Roberts & Todd study is completed with the special planning effort. He
said the Lehigh Concurrency Management System creates gross deficiency
in the Transportation System. This is the only recommendation he felt
conflicts with Smart Growth. Unless there is a change in the way
transportation traffic management is looked at, population will be over
burdened with traffic congestion.
ACTION ITEM - review the “Staff Report”. An Agenda Item, “Supplement
of Additional Policies”, will be sent to you along with an update on the
LPA changes for the October meeting. Smart Growth questions will be
presented to BoCC.
Mr.
Hammond questioned the future trend for funding roads with few large
land tracts available. Tim Jones said a typical subdivision still
receives credit against the impact fees. Wayne Daltry concurred that
policy shows a large detail and paperwork trail because Concurrency
Management is done link by link whereas an Area-Wide approach keeps
enough capacity under construction to match and exceed growth.
B. LPA Policies, other sources
Planning Division Discussion:
4.2 (Page 13) shows a concern with updating the build out estimate every
5 years.
Carrying Capacity discussion: Mr. Teuber was concerned that Carrying
Capacity and Build Out was not given a definition with the terminology
of define vs. understanding. Wayne Daltry defined Build
Out as, “What we have approved”. Mr. Daltry confirmed that “Currently
there is no relationship of carrying capacity to build out”. He said
when you calculate the service, under the current road network, funded
by current revenue sources, and when the population reaches 700,000 who
are driving single vehicles, the road system goes to gridlock even with
the Plan improvements.
Master Planning for Environment, Master Mitigation Plan, Page 13
–
2.11 Bill Hammond suggested adding “define and demonstrate
understanding”.
4.1.5 to 77.1.2 - Wayne Daltry summarized that the big problem with the
strike outs on this series is it promotes a county governmental permit
series.
Discussion continued with the Cape Coral Annexation environmental
permits. Also Mr. Noethlich questioned, “Were not these policy
recommendations what the committee was asked to do”? Mr. Daltry said the
Lee Plan has been “de-shalled”. Attorney Jones said the “de-shall”
is changing the grammar from shall to will and the enforcement language
has not been taken out. Mr. Daltry said the Plan is to be what we should
be doing; programming staff efforts, or use the powers of BoCC. The word
pursue would be advocacy. Smart Growth recommendations are basic
taxonomy to include goals and actions for staff to do. Tim Jones
explained that there are certain provisions in the Plan that you will do
certain things, and staff said we do not have staff, time or money
unless BoCC makes that happen. The policy is mandatory and that is why
it was stricken. Wayne Daltry answered, “Some of the policy’s need to
be coordinated with other divisions because some are other divisional
policies”. (Mr. Teuber departed at 7:24 p.m.).
Discussion continued with pages 15, 17.1.7 through pages 88.2.
88.2.1 – 88.2.3: Needs recommendation. Some of the
discussion was who does the air quality and FP&L standards. Need to
decide if the county should provide a vehicle inspection program since
vehicles (includes trucks) are more damaging than FP&L. Dan Moser
(public) requested not to let this issue drop.
Co-Chair Hammond summarized the major concerns:
·
Community Facilities and Service Element from .3 on. Mr.
Daltry said he will try to resolve this to be a divisional National
Resource task.
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4.3 and 77.2 - Continue to recommend
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77.1.7 - Formalized regional policy
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Utilities was redundant
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2.11- reword to define and demonstrate the understanding
of carrying capacity.
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77.2- Coordinate with the S. FL Exotic list.
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88.2 – 88.2.1- consider combining Air Quality
MOTION made by Steve Maxwell to accept the pursuant of the ones
you feel to pursue and acceptance of the changes where we agreed to
accept the changes and agree to the deletions where agreed to delete;
seconded by Ellen Lindblad. Called and carried.
4. Discussion
A. Oil, Transportation, and Urban Form, a review of the
Parliamentary Subcommittee of Australia.
Action: This is a read topic for the October meeting. (Handout)
“The Oil Report” is from July 2006. It is doom and gloom of oil from a
former administrator of petroleum from Iran. “Towards a Sustainable
Florida” is a document Dennis Gilkey asked to pass on. Mr. Daltry said
this is a way to deal with the middle period before the new energy
comes. There are a lot of urban and regional implications speaking
towards local resource developing energy sources that will have impact
on land and water resource. (Ron Hamel left at 7:50 p.m.).
B. Progress on various projects, attached
Mr. Daltry said with the finishing of the policies for LPA, the
strategies are done, we will move to two themes. The middle period
before the energy crisis and Active Lifestyle or Green Communities. This
is what will make the savings to your destination from your door.
Mr. Daltry asked everyone that can be on the subcommittee to come to the
LPA meeting Monday morning.
Co-Chair Hammond explained the Red Tide Study recently released
concludes a solid science of what water quality has to do with Red Tide.
Wayne Daltry said he will get that information to the committee by or
before the next meeting.
Mr.
Daltry discussed the Progress Report Summary he sent to the committee.
He said previously he thought Smart Growth would end with the formed
policies, but now the carrying capacity and energy crisis is going to be
a real issue for Smart Growth.
C. Topics from Members
There were none. Mr. Daltry said the committee will be receiving the
recommendations from other entities plus the filed deposition of our
Smart Growth address.
5. Public Comment – None.
6. Set
the next meeting date (October 18), identify agenda items.
MOTION: Dr. Bill Hammond made a motion to adjourn at 8:10 p.m.;
seconded by Ellen Lindblad. Called and carried.
Respectfully submitted by:
Lucy Crook
County Administration
