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MINUTES

SMART GROWTH

DRAFT MINUTES October 18, 2006                    

Time and Place: Wednesday, October 18, 2006; 6-8 p.m., 1st Floor, Lee County Administration Building, 2115 Second Street, Fort Myers Florida.

 I.                   Call to Order, Introductions, Review of Agenda

Wayne Daltry opened the meeting of the Lee County Smart Growth Advisory Committee at 6:02 p.m.

 

The following committee members were in attendance:

Ms. Whitney Gray                               

Ms. Carie Call 

Mr. Steven Teuber

Mr. Brian Griffin, Co Chairman

Mr. Jack Luft                                      

Ms. Liz Donley

Ms. Ellen Lindblad (Arrived at 6:06 p.m.)                              

Mr. Damon Romanello

 

The following committee members unexcused absent:

Mr. Neal Noethlich

 

The following committee members excused absent:

Mr. Jack Eikenberg

Mr. Bill Hammond

Mr. Ron Hamel

Ms. Jill Tyrer

Mr. Lee Ford

        

The following staff in attendance:

Wayne Daltry, Director of Smart Growth

Commissioner Janes

Don Stilwell, County Manager

Tim Jones, County Attorney                 

Lucy Crook, Recording Secretary

 

2.  Administrative Matters

A.  Minutes of September 20, 2006.

Action Needed: Accept and approve the minutes as amended by discussion

from the members. No quorum at this time.

3.  Reviews

A.  Smart Growth LPA Policies, progress – Wayne Daltry said that Smart Growth (SG) recommendations are going forth with one area of disagreement in 88.2, an air quality policy issue. SG needs to decide whether to recommend to commission. Local Planning Agency (LPA) asked for a presentation from FL Department of Environmental Protection and he thought SG should also. Sherrill Culliver is here to discuss and answer questions on current air quality and air quality issues. The information and mapping website was made available to all earlier. (Ellen Lindblad arrived at 6:06 p.m.)

Mr. Culliver said DEP has monitored air quality in Lee County for the past two decades. EPA looks at what triggers chemical smog during an 8 hour average for a three year period. Based on population, Lee County is far below average and is not required to have a vehicle inspection program. In 2005 the county was ranked 24th out of 25 cleanest cities in U.S. There are monitors in Cape Coral and Ft. Myers Beach. FP&L Power Plant is one of the six major large entities in Lee County that has lowered emissions more than one ton since last year.

Sherrill Culliver answered Dan Moser about the coal burning in Glades County and how it should not have a big impact locally. Three out of four times there will be an emission control center to keep emissions very low. Wayne Daltry added that there is a Vehicle Citing Act and BoCC asked staff to keep abreast of it.

Brian Griffin suggested recommending to the commissioners to approve staffs recommendations on proposed raised impact fees for roads before the Public Hearing. Mr. Daltry agreed that the more gap you close, the less congestion. The commission would appreciate a letter of support.

MOTION - Brian Griffin asked for a motion to send a letter. There was no response.

Wayne Daltry asked for the committee’s input regarding DCD staff recommendation not to pursue an emissions program. Ms. Donley said SG is here to assist the county in its vision; to set standards higher than minimum requirements. Ms. Call agreed to leave it in the recommendations. (Sherrill Culliver left at 6:30 P.M.).

A.  Minutes of September 20, 2006.

Action Needed: Accept and approve the minutes as amended by discussion .

Co-Chair Griffin asked to entertain a motion to accept the September 20, 2006 draft minutes.

 MOTION by Ms. Call; seconded by Ms. Lindblad to accept the September 20, 2006 draft minutes as written. Called and carried.

 B.  LPA Policies, other sources, from September LPA

Mr. Daltry referred to handout Summary of New/Revised Objectives in Coming Year. He emphasized that over half of the Managers Goals are SG recommendations; particularly on land development recommendations. He summarized the handout and said to call him for any questions. He may tie a work program in November because December it goes to the Commissioners. There are still missing components, i.e.; getting with the School Board on site recommendations to slow down growth instead of stopping it; however the county is seriously getting points across to the cities with annexation concerns. The special district issues are ongoing.

 Co-Chair Griffin commented on Commissioner Janes excellent newspaper article on SG. He noted that it is too bad that the county can only make recommendations to cities. It is unfortunate that there is a lack of representation on SG from Bonita Springs, Cape Coral, City of Fort Myers, and Ft. Myers Beach. Mr. Daltry said the MPO is in place to be used for briefing all entities.

Wayne Daltry discussed the Inter-local Agreement handout where city added a section to annexation law. Improving a city tax base improves county tax base, but improving a physical structure may not do the same to the unincorporated areas. Through creation of inter-local agreements, independent local government issues can be worked out. 

4.  Discussion

A.  Reprise of Mike Busha’s, “If this is Smart Growth, I Want My Money Back.” Wayne Daltry gave the power point.

Break time at 7:15 P.M. and returned at 7:25 P.M.

B. Oil, Transportation, and Urban Form, a review of the Parliamentary Subcommittee of Australia.  An e-version of the Proceedings of the Parliament from Australian with regard to the Oil Issue document was previously sent. Mr. Daltry said the document is a transcription discussing how Australia is responding to an expectation of the oil cost increase and what it will do with transportation and urban goal design. The County Manager Goals 2006-07 includes an objective to look at all current fuels. The Australian transcription noted the importance of transit and urban redesign and the need to know how much time we have with the increased cost of fuel.

 There were two Florida papers that supplemented the Australian paper on transportation fuels and alternative fuels. One said single vehicles will be around as long as we have hydrogen fuel that solar powers a hydrogen electrolysis conversion machine. Mr. Daltry noted it has not been built. Another one was bio-fuels. (Century Commission has seen these presentations.)

What does assessing the fuels do to urban form? He discussed the importance of greenspace, farmland and enough land to grow fuel. These discussion papers are available for handout and might add value in future discussions.  

Red Tide report distributed. In summary, the runoff from fertilizer causes algae blooms which results in Red Tide. There is a coastal shelf pheromone about 50 miles out on the gulf side which is why the current does not take the water away; generally it sits there. This report is co-sponsored from the SG initiative and paid for through an inter-local agreement.

C.  Topics from Members

Wayne Daltry said expect to review the LPA policies coming from other sources at the next meeting.

 

Co-chair Griffin opened the floor for discussion. Wayne Daltry distributed October Figures from MLS with the current number of homes on the market.

 

Liz Donley said with regard to greenspace, the Lee Mitigation Master Plan presentation might give SG members an understanding of the greenspace activity. Mr. Daltry said he would check with Dr. Beaver.

Jack Luft entertained discussion if the new commission might aggressively go after mass transit, or be reluctant because of the nimby effect. It was shared that this BoCC is pro SG. Wayne Daltry said transit has to grow decision by decision until it is a solid frame system. The difficulty is getting density involved with community area planning worked with the nature of the area market. He referenced creating ‘Villages’ at corners, i.e.; Colonial and Fowler, Daniels and 41. There was discussion that in other parts of the county building ‘villages’ for the retired/over 50 female market and the young adult generations are successful.

5.  Public Comment

Dan Moser (public) serves on an ADHOC Task Force mandated by legislature, called Conserve by Bike to create strategies to make viable options to ride bikes to work. The task force is to submit a report to the state legislature in May 2007. He discussed the disconnect with other municipalities. He suggested as a next phase of SG to use the MPO model and mandate representation from elected officials from other cities to serve on SG. Commissioner Janes agreed and discussed the necessity to begin developing a private/public partnership because neither can do it alone. The United Way funds are not beneficial for issues of detoxifying, mentally ill, etc., which is why the Human Services Council was created to address these issues.

 

6.  Set next meeting date (November 15), identify agenda items, and adjourn.

Chair Griffin entertained a motion to adjourn.

 MOTION by Carrie Call to adjourn at 7:57 p.m.; seconded by Ellen Lindblad. Called and carried.

 Respectfully submitted by:

 

Lucy Crook

County Administration