
SMART
GROWTH COMMITTEE
March 18, 2009 Minutes
Time and Place: Wednesday,
March 18, 2009 from 6-8 p.m., 1st Floor, Lee County
Administration Building, 2115 Second Street, Fort Myers, Florida.
1.
Chairwoman Dr. Banyan called the
Lee County Smart Growth (SG) Advisory Committee meeting to Order at 6:05
p.m. Attorney Fredyma
reviewed and said the affidavit of publication is sufficient and asked
it to be entered into the record.
The Following
Committee Members Attendance:
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LAST |
FIRST |
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LAST |
FIRST |
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Banyan |
Dr. Margaret |
P |
Hammond |
Dr. Bill |
E |
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Call |
Carrie |
P |
Lindblad |
Ellen |
P |
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Chilmonik |
Robert |
P |
Luft |
Jack |
E |
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Fineberg |
Margaret |
P |
Noethlich |
Neal |
P |
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Fluegel |
Walter |
E |
Paul |
Liz |
E |
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Ford |
Lee |
P |
Romanello |
Damon |
E |
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Grey |
Whitney |
P |
Tyrer |
Jill |
P |
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Hamel |
Ron |
P |
Mantis |
William |
E |
The Following Staff Members Attendance:
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Name |
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Name |
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Name |
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Name |
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Commissioner Hall, District 4 |
E |
Wayne Daltry, SG Director |
P |
John Fredyma, Asst. County Attorney |
P |
Lucy Crook, Recording Secretary |
P |
2.
Administrative Matters
A. Draft Minutes of
February 18,
2009.
Action Needed: Accept and approve the
minutes as amended by discussion of the members.
Motion made by Mr. Noethlich to accept
the February 18, 2009 draft minutes as written; seconded by Ms. Gray.
The minutes were approved unanimously.
3.
Discussion
A. Outcomes of Code Review
(Handout-
Smart Growth & Code Reform)
Mr. Daltry
asked for additions to the Summary of Code Outcomes. (Ms.
Fineberg arrived at 6:10 p.m.). Hearing none Mr.
Hamel made a motion to proceed with the 10 issues in the review;
seconded for discussion. There was no discussion. Motion passed
unanimously.
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Lead Committee Member for Each
Interview Group - Mr.
Daltry plans to interview willing candidates referred to him who
with the Lee County Code process. The very best candidates are ones
the Committee members schedule. The goal is to identify the
obstructions.
Discussion on
Interest Groups
(Handout attached): Mr.
Daltry gave an example of a group of land owners who do not see
mixeduse development. He asked to define Land User Group that would go
through the permitting process. Some of the discussion below:
·
Agriculture (AG) as a landowner
subset.
·
Landowners zoned AG but not
using it as AG. What might they do with the land that could require
permitting, i.e., 10 acre horse stable; plant nursery, etc.
·
The major landowner in this
group should be on the list, not just the attorney or leasing manager. (Mr.
Daltry added this under #21).
·
Mr. Daltry
noted more additions: Working water fronts, health, social services and
lawyers.
Administrative Code and the County Code and Ordinances (handout) – Mr. Daltry
will check against the 10 principles for relevancy. There are some
oddities such as the code that accommodates pedestrian with no
accommodation to cross the street is not referenced in the
Summary of
Code Outcomes Discussion handout.
Mr. Daltry
was requested to explain
the County Administration Code v. the Land Development Code in detail.
Administration Code is direction from BoCC to the staff. The Codes
and Ordinances would be the collection adopted over time. The Land
Development Code consists of sign ordinances, building code, and code
division reorganized years ago and recommended BoCC to readopt them all.
He reviewed each code on handout
County Administrative Code. An
example for AC 13-3 Community Planning San Carlos Community
Planning will have their first staff meeting to discuss how to provide
assessment for infrastructure. The process is the community decides the
allocations but staff has the answers for what infrastructure can take
when a developer comes in. This is the SG. He gave an example of an
upcoming discussion under Community Planning with a community handling
golf course conversion into a housing development.
Walkable
Community - Chairwoman Banyan said to reference disabled access
under Interest Groups. (Mr. Hamel left at 7:05 p.m.).
Discussed sidewalk, bus shelter funding through impact fees. Attorney
Fredyma explained it is the methodology that prevents the percentage
of fund increase and explained the only alternative for increase would
be to change the methodology and set a new method for roads. She said
provide incentives for developers to minimize parking spaces and provide
bus shelters.
Walkable Community v. Complete Streets
– Chairwoman Banyan explained that when referring to Walkable
Community it is more than walking The term Complete Streets encompasses
the definition more fully and she is trying to use the term Complete
Streets.
Discussion on the Transit Authority
- the Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO) process is to identify
sources and prioritize funds; also talked about the Community
Development Districts (CDD) and special taxing units process; and penny
sales tax for an independent Transit Authority, etc.
Summary
of Environmental Activity, Not in PowerPoint
handout – Mr. Daltry summarized the briefing given to the
Commissioners recently on environmental activity within Lee County. He
noted that most of the issues have followed the SG Initiative.
D. Incentives for Infill and
Redevelopment (from last month, at this website)
http://www.smartgrowthlee.com/MISC%20DOCUMENTS/2009%20meeting%20attachments/Incentives%20for%20SG%201-09.pdf):
Mr. Daltry
explained that the handout,
Conclusions from Complete Street
Review, is Dan Moser’s critique on areas that may need
improvement in Lee County for the Committee to review. Additionally,
Darla Letourneau (public) has a Resolution from the Bicycle Pedestrian
Community to be presented to BoCC next week for your review and support.
Homework Assignment: A draft ordinance of more
Complete Street from Miami Dade is attached
to review on what might be incorporated into the Lee County Land
Development Review for discussion at next months meeting. Ms. Letourneau
explained why the ordinance is worthy. There is a national group,
“Complete Streets Coalition.” Legislation has mandated that Complete
Streets becomes national within two years. There are bills moving to
have Legislation authorized by September 2009. This is going to be the
first national debate on SG and Livable Communities. Mr. Daltry
referred to the Miami Dade Transit System power point he presented last
year noting it works within the Florida general laws and their issues
are similar to Lee County with redevelopment, etc.
Ms. Letourneau explained that March is
Bicycle Month and they are taking the opportunity to present this at the
March 24, 2009 BoCC meeting with the intent to start the conversation
with Commissioners to support the concept of Complete Streets.
MOTION
made by Ms. Gray to recommend that the SG Committee endorse the
Resolution to include Mr. Daltry as the presenter at the March 24, 2009
Board meeting; seconded by Mr. Noethlich for discussion.
Hearing no discussion, or opposition, the motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Daltry reviewed
Conclusions for Complete Street Review handout: Ms. Call made
note that the last sentence on page 1 includes Chairwoman Banyans
earlier request to include mobility limitations, visual
impairment, or other disabilities.
Under the Code - Bicycle/Pedestrian
Maintenance of Traffic (MOT) during Road Construction and Development
that Affects the Right-of-Way, Mr. Daltry said at the Board
Goal Session there was much attention given to SG issues. The direction
given was to build SG Mission into each component of county management.
He said it was made clear to management to refocus with SG objectives
and to come back with a comprehensive format to achieve a Smart
Community. SG was the compelling theme in this year’s session.
Discussion Roads, Shoulders and
Bike/Pedestrian: Ms. Letourneau
said there is a major issue of maintenance with roadway shoulders. In
monitoring the roadways, the roads are not swept quarterly, or shoulders
maintained systematically as policy states and asked the Committee not
to overlook it. Mr. Daltry answered that at the Goal Secession,
the Board said the maintenance issue, which is a funding issue, should
not be confused with the degree of public safety and to be sure of
proper marking for bike/pedestrian facilities beginning with designated
bike lanes.
Unmarked Shoulders - Ms. Letourneau
said the unmarked shoulders are not maintained because D.O.T. said it
is not their responsibility. Mr. Daltry said to check the
maintenance schedule for County roads and to try to get it applied to
Bike Facilities using the caveat of Community Planning effort to
incorporate higher standards in areas supporting Complete Streets. That
is why the objectives of the Board today was important because County
Transportation maintenance program for non motorized facilities will
include bike/pedestrian issues. County staff was committed to have
answers back to the Board in a month. The effort is to amend the
process to SG to make a Complete Street Community. The interview with
Interest Groups on the code process will enable us to know where to
amend the process.
Chairwoman Banyan
was concerned that the critical issue of Public Transportation is not
referenced on the Conclusions from Complete Street Review. Make
sure that this is added.
4. Task Progress
A. Member Issues:
Ms. Tyrer
said the Complete Streets website sent to members was not a correct
address. She asked why SG has not been included on the Red Sox process
and is there a way for the Committee to be involved? There is concern
about the above discussion on amending the process to SG. Mr. Daltry
noted that this it is a LPA process.
Attorney Fredyma
explained in detail that it is soon to be a zoning process because it is
a DRI. It would be inappropriate for the Board members to talk about the
project. Only in a public meeting would it not violate the Ordinance.
Mr. Chilmonik
suggested using the blog on the News Press.
Mr. Noethlich
said the process that the Committee set up asks are we going to do SG
because he does not see a process. (Dr. Chilmonik departed at 8:09
p.m.).
UPDATE: Mr. Daltry
said the Estuary River Management Recovery Program that came out
of the SG Initiative is at battle again. South Florida Water
Management District (SFWMD) voted to direct the Army Corp of Engineers
to cease discharges of water into Caloosahatchee Estuary. Yesterday the
BoCC went to war and directly addressed the Army Corp of Engineers to
please ignore SFWMD. Independently, the Governor Crist is going to be
asked how the suit Florida filed against Georgia for saltwater intrusion
into estuaries is any different than this.
B. Updates: Public Comment:
See above.
5.
Set next meeting (April 15); identify agenda items, and Adjourn.
A Motion was entertained to adjourn
at 8:23 P.M; called and carried.
Respectfully submitted by:
Lucy Crook, Recording Secretary
Lee County Administration
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Minutes
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Conclusions from Complete Street Review
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